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My people offered you help; and in return, you brought upon them only ruin and death. When did the men of Lake-town come to our aid but for the promise of rich reward? A bargain was struck! What choice did we have but to barter our birthright for blankets and food, to ransom our future in exchange for our freedom? You call that a fair trade? Tell me, Bard the dragon-slayer: Because you gave us your word. Does that mean nothing?
Ere our arrows fly! What are you doing?! You cannot go to war. This does not concern you. Excuse me, but just in case you haven't noticed, there is an army of Elves out there! Not to mention several hundred angry fishermen. W-We are, in fact, outnumbered.
Not for much longer. What does that mean? It means, Master Baggins, you should never underestimate Dwarves. We have reclaimed Erebor. Now, we defend it. He will give us nothing. But still, you tried. I do not understand. Why would he risk war?
It is fruitless to reason with them. They understand only one thing. Are you with us? This vest is made of silver steel. Mithril, it was called by my forebears. No blade can pierce it. I'm not a warrior, I'm a Hobbit. It is a gift. A token of our friendship. Thorin glances at the Dwarves in the armory, lowering his voice] Thorin: True friends are hard to come by. You've won the mountain. Is that not enough? Betrayed by my own kin You made a promise to the people of Laketown.
I-is this treasure truly worth more than your honor? Our honor, Thorin, I was also there. I gave my word. It was nobly done. On my life, I will not part with a single coin. Not one piece of it. You must set aside your petty grievances with the Dwarves. The cesspits of Dol Guldur have been emptied. What are you talking about? I can see you know nothing of wizards. They are like winter thunder on a wild wind, rolling in from a distance breaking hard in alarm.
But sometimes a storm is just a storm. Armies of Orcs are on the move. These are fighters, they have been bred for war. Our enemy has summoned his full strength. Why show his hand now?
Because we forced him. We forced him when the company of Thorin Oakenshield set out to reclaim their homeland. The Dwarves were never meant to reach Erebor. Azog the Defiler was sent to kill them. His master seeks control of the Mountain, not just for the treasure within, but for where it lies, its strategic position. This is the gateway to reclaiming the lands of Angmar in the North.
These Orc armies you speak of, Mithrandir, where are they? He stops when he hears Bofur] Bofur: You should be inside Place still stinks of dragon. The elves have been moving their archers into position. The battle will be over by tomorrow's eve. Though I doubt we will live to see it. No one could blame a soul for wishing themselves elsewhere. Bombur's got the next watch. It'll take a bit to wake him.
Bofur, I will see you in the morning. Since when has my counsel counted for so little? What do you think I'm trying to do? I think you're trying to save your Dwarfish friends. And I admire your loyalty to them, but it does not dissuade me from my cause. You started this, Mithrandir. You will forgive me if I finish it. If anything moves on that mountain, kill it. Gandalf looks on despairingly. Is gold so important to you?
Would you buy it with the blood of dwarves? It will not come to that. This is a fight they cannot win. You think the dwarves will surrender? They will fight to the death to defend their own. And worth a king's ransom. I took it as my fourteenth share of the treasure. Why would you do this? You owe us no loyalty. I'm not doing it for you. And suspicious and secretive, with the worst manners you can possibly imagine; but they are also brave and kind I've grown very fond of them, and I would save them if I can.
But Thorin values this stone above all else.
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In exchange for its return, I believe he will give you what you were owed. There will be no need for war. I will put the next one between your eyes! All the Dwarves except for Thorin duck down, Thranduil indicates for his army to stand down] Thranduil: We've come to tell you payment of your debt has been offered I gave you nothing. How came you by the heirloom of our house? That stone belongs to the King! The King may have it, with our good will.
It is a ruse. It is a trick! The stone is real. I gave it to them. I took it as my fourteenth share. You would steal from me? I may be a burglar but I'd like to think I'm an honest one. I'm willing to let it stand against my claim. You have no claim over me, you miserable rat!
I was going to give it to you. Many times, I wanted to, but- Thorin: The Dwarf I met in Bag End would never have gone back on his word! Would never have doubted the loyalty of his kin! Do not speak to me of loyalty! Did you not hear me?! Cursed be the wizard that forced you on this company! Return him to me. You're not making a very splendid figure as King under the Mountain, are you, Thorin, son of Thrain? The return of the Arkenstone for what was promised?
Then he paces] Thorin: Why should I buy back that which is rightfully mine? Ecthelion of Gondor will give you a good price for it. Upon my oath, I will kill you all! Your oath means nothing! Thorin, lay down your arms. This treasure will be your death. Thorin, we cannot win this fight. Give us your answer. Will you have peace or war? He doesn't look very happy. He is Dain, Lord of the Iron Hills.
How aaare we all? I have a wee proposition, if ye wouldn't mind givin' me a few moments of yer time. Tell this rabble to leave, or I'll water the ground with their blood! There is no need for war between Dwarves, Men, and Elves. A legion of Orcs march on the Mountain. Stand your army down.
I will not stand down before any Elf. Let them advance, see how far they'll get. You think I give a dead dog for your threats, ya pointy-eared princess? Let's give these bastards a good hammering! Thorin, they are dying out there.
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There are halls beneath halls within the Mountain, places we can fortify. Shore up, make safe? Yes, that is it. We must move the gold further underground to safety. Did you not hear me? They're being slaughtered, Thorin. Many die in war, life is cheap.
But a treasure such as this cannot be counted in lives lost. It is worth all the blood we can spend. You sit here, in these vast halls, with a crown upon your head Do not speak to me as if I were some lowly dwarf lord You used to know that once. But you cannot see what you have become. This gold is ours and ours alone. No, it is not.
We are sons of Durin. And Durin's folk do not flee from a fight. The Dwarves are about to be overrun. Thorin must be warned. By all means, warn him. I've spent enough Elvish blood in defense of this accursed land.
Don't be ridiculous, you'll never make it. Because they will see you coming, and kill you! They won't see me.The Hobbit - The Battle Of The Five Armies - The Return Journey
It's out of the question. I won't allow it. I'm not asking you to allow it, Gandalf. The dwarves will be slaughtered. Yes, they will die. Today, tomorrow, one year hence, a hundred years from now. What does it matter? You think your life is worth more than theirs, when there is no love in it?
There is no love in you! What you feel for that dwarf is not real. You think it is love? Are you ready to die for it? Bofur fights orcs, until one knocks him back.
Bifur rushes to Bofur's aid, lunging himself at the orc, getting the axe in his head stuck to the orc's head. Bofur hurries and tries to pull him out. Bombur comes and help. The three push the orc backwards until it's hanging over the edge of a cliff. Bombur walks on top on them and pulls the orc down, releasing both the grip.
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Bifur and Bofur are flung backwards. Bofur sees the axe has been dislodged from Bifur's head] Bofur: You've lost your axe!
Here you go, cousin. You know where you can stick that. Don't move, don't move. I'm glad you're here. I wish to part from you in friendship. You're going to live. I would take back my words and my deeds at the gate. You did what only a true friend would do. I was too blind to see it. I am so sorry No, I'm- I'm glad to have shared in your perils, Thorin. Each and every one of them.
It is far more than any Baggins deserves. Go back to your books Plant your trees, watch them grow. No no no no no, Thorin. Gandalf then mimics the trolls' voices to get them to argue amongst themselves until the sun comes up and kills them. The trolls were Bilbo's first test in the book, and, despite finding some courage, he pretty much fails. The movie has a much different take on the events. Instead of being a non-factor after the dwarves are caught, Bilbo uses his wits to stall the trolls long enough for Gandalf to crack a rock and expedite the trolls' transformation into stone.
In the book, the ensuing spider scene is actually a huge turning point for meek Bilbo: Somehow [after] the killing of this giant spider.
Bilbo's character progresses much more quickly in the movie than in Tolkien's version, even saving Thorin's life early on. Maybe we could owe this to the fact that he looks like a ripe young adult rather than a middle-aged man in the book, his age is cited as The Dwarves escaped Mirkwood in sealed barrels. According to Tolkien, the dwarves escape the elves of Mirkwood in sealed barrels that are delivered to Lake-town by the elves themselves.
The altered open barrel scene in the movie has a major domino effect. After the barrels are eventually stopped at a gate, which is something that doesn't happen in the books, Kili attempts to raise the portcullis and is shot with a poison arrow from an orc.
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This later leads to the company splitting up in Lake-town as some follow Thorin to the mountain and others stay behind to care for Kili, a huge departure from the book. Bard wasn't a bargeman. Giphy The barrel scene continues to change Tolkien's work throughout the second film. Rather than being delivered to Lake-town by elves, the company is forced to get a ride into town by Bard the Bargeman. In the book, Bard isn't a bargeman.
He's actually a bowman and captain of the town archers. Bard has a good relationship with the Master of the town as well, a stark contrast to the rebel bargeman portrayed in the "Desolation of Smaug.
Bilbo hears the spiders speak because of the ring. In "The Desolation of Smaug"there's a distinct moment when Bilbo puts on the ring and understands the spiders in Mirkwood. After taking off the ring, there seems to be a brief lasting effect, and the hobbit hears the spider say, "It stings!
In the book, Bilbo hears the spiders talk when he puts on the ring, but it appears that's just because he was too far away before. After taking off the ring, he later hears them say they'll eat him, leave his bones in a tree and hang him upside down -- y'know, the usual spider stuff. Fans speculate that the spiders are speaking some form of Black Speech in the movie version.